Washington is still very much a male-oriented culture. Being from Los Angeles I think it is less so there - there is less attachment to tradition perhaps there is more flexibility more acceptance of change generally. That is partly because of Hollywood.

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It is one of the issues that will have to be worked through however let me make the point and I think anyone would accept that if you set it up properly not only will you get better environmental outcomes you have a chance to create more wealth with the available resource.