So when bands work with me and it's 10 o'clock usually you'd have to be getting out of the studio we could go on until 2 in the morning cause it's my place!
This may sound funny but as much as the 'Today' show matured me it also was something of a cocoon. I'd been happy there. I never went into the boss's office and pounded my fist on the desk saying 'Give me more money! Give me a prime-time show!'