Now people when I say that look at me and say 'What are you talking about Joe? You're telling me we have to go spend money to keep from going bankrupt?'. The answer is yes that's what I'm telling you.

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When I was deputy chairman I could travel from Glasgow to Edinburgh without leaving Tory land. In a two-week period I covered every constituency in which we had an MP. There were 14. Now we have only one. We appear to have given up.