He surprised me by his familiarity with details of movements and battles which I did not suppose had come to his knowledge. As he kept me talking for over half an hour I flattered myself that what I had to say interested him.

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These individuals on steroids does it enhance their career does it give them a little more strength a little more stamina a little more psychological edge? Absolutely. How do you determine what - what their stats would be without steroids? It's impossible to tell.