I met the president when he was president-elect at a meeting in Austin. He spoke of his faith. He spoke of his desire for a compassionate conservatism for a faith-based initiative that would do something for poor people.

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I just find the evangelical church too well restrictive. But the School of Practical Philosophy is nonconfrontational. We believe there are many forms of Scripture. What is true is true and will never change whether it's in the Bible or in Shakespeare. It's about oneness.