There's tons of creative people in television that have one failure after another and they just step up higher. I could never get over that. When I had a failure there was no such thing as just getting over it.

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You watch an old 'Jeopardy!' and the categories alone are very plain. 'Poetry ' or 'Movies ' or 'Physics.' If you watch it now though there'll be a theme board where the categories are all Hitchcock movies. Lots more jokes lots more high-concept categories and questions.